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Erin’s Challenge – The Website

Posted on April 11, 2012 by ハヴネス
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A while back I discovered a video series for beginners learning Japanese called “Erin’s Challenge!”  The videos followed the adventures of a British foreign exchange student (she’s played by a half Japanese model who speaks fluent Japanese, or so I’m told) as lives and goes to school in Japan.  At first I wasn’t impressed.  The dialogue is great – nice and casual, which is always a plus, but you have know some Japanese that’s a bit advanced for the beginner level to follow it without subtitles, and the lessons at the end pick only one or two points of grammar to teach you.  This leaves some learners in the dust, confused, and ready to give up.

However, it saved itself from getting a negative review from me through its website, Erin’s Challenge.  At this point I’m still unsure of what I think about it as far as being for beginners, but I have found some interesting uses it has.  It’s got great skits and provides the script to it, a manga form, and you can even download the audio.  This is SRS heaven, if you have the patience to work with it.  It does have some negative aspects, such as the “Nihongo Quest” which is hardly beginner friendly, and some of the little activities that don’t do much, but I think the website is great.  Oh, and did I mention it’s FREE!

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First of all, each skit is very short and the dialogue can be read underneath the video.  You can watch the script in kanji, katakana, romaji, English, or in a combination of any one of these.  Heck, why not just watch it with the script written in all of them!  This is a huge help for students not at the beginner level who want to try and follow along without the annoying English subtitles turned on, and if your kanji isn’t too good yet, you can just display the kana underneath with a click of a button.  Better yet, you can even toggle between them during the video without lag!

For every skit there’s also an advanced skit, which covers some concepts considered too advanced for the regular, basic skit.  For what I use the website for, though, I tend to disregard the lessons entirely, so I cannot comment on their effectiveness.

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Each skit also has a manga form.  You can change the dialogue from being written in kanji, kana, hiragana, or English, and clicking on the speech bubbles will play the audio.  I really do like this feature, even if it seems a bit pointless.  I always find reading the manga skit to be fun, especially if I don’t want to sit through the videos.

So, how do I use these features?  Before I comment on what I didn’t like about the site, I’d like to show you how to take advantage of the script.

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First of all, as you can see from the picture that I turned on all the display options, and there’s a highlighted word with a definition.  Well, not so much a definition as an explanation about that particular verb conjugation.  You can also download the audio from this page.

What I do is I download the audio for the video, use an editor to separate each line of dialogue, and then put it into Anki.  The built-in dictionary is pretty good, although for some conjugations I’ve had to look elsewhere because it can be confusing on the site.  The -teyattekure in the very first lesson gave me a rather dull translation, but the site is usually pretty good about explaining things well enough that you don’t have to Google everything you see.

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There were a few features I found redundant, such as the “Let’s Try” lessons, but one that I found completely useless is the “Nihongo Quest” game.  If you’re only a beginner, I guarantee you won’t be able to read all of the instructions, even if the grammar doesn’t get too advanced.  Just click the thumbnail to see the last portion of them.  For a site that is supposed to help people learn the language, I think that they could have done this section a bit better.  It’s hardly “role playing” and is a waste of time.  Talking to the citizens gives you some crappy piece of dialogue, and clicking on the entrance to buildings doesn’t do anything but give you another piece of awful dialogue.  It’s really just there to let you actually do something with the avatar you create.

So, what’s my final verdict?  It’s a good website, and I highly recommend you check it out.  If it wasn’t free, I probably wouldn’t use it so much and would instead get my audio exclusively from JapanesePod101.com, which is a paid site that provides tons of stuff.  However, Erin’s Challenge does a lot of things right and I use it quite frequently for all of its options.

Categories: Websites | Tags: beginner, challenge, Erin, Erin's challenge, intermediate, Japanese, learn, website

The Intermediate Blues

Posted on January 10, 2012 by ハヴネス
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I recently received an email from someone who had hit a slump in his study of Japanese.  Specifically, he had already gotten through all the newbie and beginner seasons of JapanesePod101.com and knows around 800 kanji, but didn’t know where to go from there.  He considered buying Genki or TextFugu, but would that be a waste of money, considering where he’s at?  Sentence mining also seemed a daunting task to him, so would that be worth his effort?

It sounds like this reader is suffering from what I’d like to henceforth call the intermediate blues.  As I responded to his email, it suddenly dawned on me that it would make a great post and an excellent opportunity to elaborate on this subject, as everyone hits this point in their language study, and this is the spot where most people drop the language and go on back to their monolingual selves.  Fear not, this stage does go away!

A big reason for this is that you feel like the same amount of effort isn’t giving you the results you were first having.  When you start learning Japanese, everything is new, and every step you take feels like a huge leap.  Then, you start to get into the dreaded intermediate stage, and you feel like it’s easier to mess up, and huge steps come farther between.  In other words, you’re no longer a child, but a teenager, and those years suck.

Once the intermediate stage sets in, you might suddenly feel like you’re not ready, or that your foundation in the language isn’t strong enough yet.  In the world of self-taught people, you might not know where to go to move forward, and the moving forward seems a lot slower than it did before.   It’s not that you’re dumb, or lazy, it’s just that you’re at that stage where you have to persevere and keep it interesting for yourself.

Unfortunately, a lot of people, regardless of what they’re learning, have the intermediate blues.  That’s why there’s only a few really go NFL players and a lot of lousy ones, and why my mom can cook like an Iron Chef and I just boil ramen noodles.  That’s also why people stop learning Japanese.

Here’s the good news, though.  It’s actually not that hard to get past this stage in your study!  There’s a lot you can do to help yourself get out of this stage move on to become competent in the language.

First of all, motivate yourself.  If you’re learning Japanese to watch anime, then find an anime series and start watching it.  Remind yourself that one day you won’t need those subtitles to understand.  Or, try watching it without subtitles, get frustrated, and go back to studying!  That’s what always kept me motivated!

Second, assess where you are, but don’t obsess over where you are.  Does that make sense?  Figure out where you’re weak, and if you have to go back and review, do it.  A word of advice, though, don’t go buying beginners’ products just to review.  As much as I love Genki, it’s not made for review, and it would be a waste of money.  Head over Tae Kim’s Guide to Japanese Grammar instead, and, for a much cheaper price than any textbook, I recommend All About Particles for particle learning/review.  In short, do the review you need to, but don’t spend a lot of money (or any money), and be prepared to move on to the next step.

Second, I recommend giving sentence mining a try.  I’ve talked about this before, but you can read about it in-depth from AJATT.  I know I’ve talked about how everyone has a different way to learn their language, but eventually everyone is going to have to delve into native material.  The only difference is whether your form of study practically revolved around reading and understand native material, or if this is just a supplement to your textbook or tutor.  By the time you reach intermediate, I recommend that everyone try dabbling in this.  If you haven’t done this from the beginning, then you may have to start with small sentences, because native material is different from your textbook.  Start small and work up, is what I say.

Remember to pick interesting sentences, otherwise it’ll seem boring and the intermediate blues won’t get any more bearable!  Find sentences that strike a chord with you and that you’ll be glad to encounter.  Just because a sentence sounds useful, doesn’t mean you have to force yourself to come into contact with it day after day.

Finally, keep persevering.  The rewards will be great, even though it can be a huge pain once you break out of the beginner stage.  Keep things fun and interesting, try new things, and remind yourself of your goals when you need a motivator.

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